May 20, 2025

And One More Thing: Teachers are the Reason for all the Extras in Schools

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And One More Thing: Teachers are the Reason for all the Extras in Schools

Jamie and Joe revisit the topics connected to parent volunteers in public schools, as well as the weight of judgement between working and non working parents. Such hot topics in the education space overlap into the parenting space and include how much of the “extra” that exists in education is from the wallets and off the backs of unpaid teacher labor.

Jamie and Joe revisit the topics connected to parent volunteers in public schools, as well as the weight of judgement between working and non working parents. Such hot topics in the education space overlap into the parenting space and include how much of the “extra” that exists in education is from the wallets and off the backs of unpaid teacher labor.

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Music.

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Recording hello hello hello and welcome back

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to the balancing act podcast i am jamie wonko

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here with my gorgeous sun-kissed co-host

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thank you mr joseph aka he prefers

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joe by tally oh it's we're going by first names

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uh it's not that i preferred it's not

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that i prefer joe it's just joseph is so formal and i've

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only you identify as a joe i identify as a joe i've only had

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two people call me joey that would be my mom and i had a

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a ex-girlfriend who used to be like oh joey and

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that's like it just stuck and it i never changed it i never said anything

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um so that's what it was um but yeah here we are another sun kiss thank you

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i mean it's a lot of like sitting at probably baseball games roasting a little

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bit thankfully because you know there's been a lot of days where you're out

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there and you're freezing and i have my battery operated heated jacket on So

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hopefully, I think we've turned a corner.

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You think so? I sure as hell hope so. I thought we were supposed to have like

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rain and rain and rain and rain and rain.

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And that's not what happened. So I like it. Yeah, me too.

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I was pleasantly surprised that we haven't had so much of the rain, rain, rain.

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Yes. I'm also, you know, I'm starting to hear the magical sound of summer in

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the evening, which, as we know, is the ice cream man.

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And it just makes me happy. Like when you start hearing that,

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it's like, yep, it's coming. We don't have that in our neighborhood.

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There's only one or two of them that come around. It's not very often,

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though. We do have Scream Truck, which we've talked about. I love it.

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I scream, you scream, we all scream for Scream Truck.

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So those of you that don't know, Scream Truck is a...

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I think we've talked about it before when we had...

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Who was the woman from Nicholas Creamery?

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I can't remember. Miss Jodi. That's right. So we had Jodi on,

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and we talked a little bit about Scream Truck. Scream Truck.

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But Scream Truck is like, you sign up like, hey, Scream Truck's going to be

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in your area from 7.30 to 8.30 tonight.

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And you immediately order and they come to your house during that time.

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That's the only way you can get them.

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And it's lights and it's music. The ice cream is phenomenal.

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It really is very good. And they got seasonal stuff and all sorts of fun things.

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But I haven't done it in a while. I should do that.

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You know, the only issue with the Scream Truck for people, not me,

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I'm not people, but the issue would be, this has happened to me a couple of

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So I am people, but, uh, you know, I get a message at like, uh,

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11 o'clock and it's the scream truck is going to come to your house today at 3.00 PM.

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And it's like, Oh, nobody's there at three. You know what I mean?

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Like, so that can be tricky.

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But, um, when it is, you know, it is most of the time, it's a very pleasant

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surprise and nobody likes the scream truck more than my dog.

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Pup cups. They do have a very cool... Yeah, they got a whole thing.

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This just in, they're going to be charging $1 per pup cup, but they are going to donate the money.

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I mean... Yes, to worthy causes for animals. Have you heard that the Scream Truck is adding pizza?

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I did hear that. They started testing it where they're going to have a little

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Neapolitan pizza thing that's going to be coming around, which I love that idea.

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What are some other trucks that there should be? In the wintertime,

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there should be like a soup truck that just drives around with different soups.

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But I think the problem is I like soup. What am I going to say?

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Oh, my goodness. I love soup. But there's no like song like soup.

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There's no like soup song. When

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I think of soup, I always think of Justin Timberlake and Jimmy Fallon.

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Right. It was Jimmy Fallon. No, it's Justin Timberlake on SNL.

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Bring it on down to Homelessville.

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No, they did. And I think one of them was dressed up like a, um, like a gift bag.

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And he was like a sack, like a, right. Like a Christmas sack.

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That one to me is like the most.

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When they were like, put your soup in a bowl. Yeah. Let me see your main is strong.

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And they'd be like, yeah, it's, it's amazing. What's really funny is I just

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talked about that like two days ago with, uh, with one of my coworkers who was

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in the cafeteria. We're dismissing kids.

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We're like, okay, you got to clean up. where she's like or you

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could just ignore me and pretend like i'm not a

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person and she just started like she broke into song and then no one was standing

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around her and she was just by herself and it was an amazing moment um because

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we both looked at each other and i just laughed and then we started talking

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about justin timberlake so um sometimes that's you know i mean that is a coping

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mechanism oh yeah that's um,

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Yeah. The other day, the other day now, you know, and I tell the children,

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like, we've been together for nine months and they ask me still,

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like, where are the scissors?

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Where's the glue? Where are the books? You know, where are the books?

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So Jamie took the, Jamie took labeling the cabinets in her room and people would

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just walk in because her room used to be like the junk room.

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It was like, all right, not the junk room, but it was, it was nobody's room

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so like it was everybody's room so like every teacher in

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the social studies department there were like four different teachers in there block

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one block two block three block four so man man man man

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and it was all men and no one took ownership over

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it no one took ownership or like this is the room that we're gonna

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clean it we're gonna organize it we're gonna make sure it's good so like

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jamie got like the room that was

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like the leftover room but she made it her own and

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it's amazing i love it and as she

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like acclimated people would come in because that's where

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all the stuff was for the department they'd be like hey where are the books where

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are the books so she just labeled one of her cabinets and it

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just says all the books um and

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it's just my favorite thing um so it

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was like you know and it's like uh mrs lanco

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where are the scissors or my

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favorite do you have any rulers like we've

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used rulers all year long and everything

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is either in art labeled art which somebody which somebody put an f in front

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of and it's the fart cabinet not like it's in the art cabinet um it's either

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in art or create right so it's like um and you And by the way, you just leave it.

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We're middle school people, all right? Oh, I love that. I love it.

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I mean, you know, and the kids are like, did you do it?

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I'm like, I didn't do it. But I mean, I wish I had thought of it. But no, it wasn't me.

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But so it was just like the song...

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Like everything has been in the same place all year. Yeah. I don't know why you can't find it.

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You know, it was like, I had to go on and they just are like smiling.

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This is what happens. This is what happens when you get to the,

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the middle of the final marking period of the school year. And you have just

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lost all synapses in your brain from firing.

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And you know, you're giving directions and there's that one kid.

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It's just talking. it's like this person's gonna talk the whole time

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and the singing though is the great it really calms everybody

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because then it's like the ones who weren't listening now are

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listening um and the ones who like were

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already listening or smiling you know especially if they

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think as my students do they think that i feel

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that i missed out on a singing career my my

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wonder i actually read a strategy recently that said

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like uh if you can hear me point to someone that's

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still talking and like everybody points it's like i

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loved that idea i haven't tried it yet but i'm ready to try

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it um but yeah that's a

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good one uh what are we doing what's happening what's going on what did she

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say are we working today oh my goodness i have one kid endearingly who comes

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in every day he's like can we watch a movie every day he comes in every day

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to be his day and then one day it will be oh i can't wait for that day i hope

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it's gonna be something great yeah well i I was,

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we were doing like these little activities and, uh.

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He doesn't want activities. He wants a movie.

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No, we were doing a movement Monday activity. It was like a,

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it was like a duo thing. It's like you chose which duo you liked the best.

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And then you did that exercise.

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Yeah. So we do that. We love those. Yeah. So we did one and it was like, which duo.

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And there were like different ones coming up and like Wally and Evie came up

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like Wally, the Disney movie, Wally. And they're like, what movie is that?

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I'm like, it's Wally. And they're like, well, we've never seen,

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I'm like, I've never seen, How have you never seen WALL-E?

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Like WALL-E or Up, which is a hill I will die on.

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Up is the best Pixar Disney movie. I know Cars, Toy Story. I get it. Up. I don't like Cars.

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A lot of people don't like Cars. I thought it was cute.

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But anyway, there were a lot of those movies I didn't see. I'm not really a

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movie shower at the end of the year.

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But my period one, who, shout out to my period one. None of them are listening.

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Are my favorite period this year They're just fun They're like,

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Actually one girl was like My god I'm in this room And it's so cold It was like

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for testing It's like it's so cold in there It's like why are you like Why do

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like old people Like they have to have the room Like so cold And I'm like,

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how old is old? And they're like, Oh, they're like, my mom's 35.

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And I'm like, Oh, I'm so old. And they're like, um, you know,

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it's just saying all these things.

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You're not old till you start caring about your health.

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And I was, I just cracked up. And then one, one of the persons like,

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you're not old until you like, say, uh, your dinner is supper.

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Like they just, and they literally just came out of nowhere.

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I was like, you guys are like a little standup comedy troupe today like

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it was endearing and hysterical and

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i was like oh and there was at one point um the

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same girl we were just talking about something i was like well how old do you

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guys think i am this was a different day she's like 67 she just

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threw out a number and i was so that's what i say all the time i was

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like well when you're 67 and all the kids just start laughing so

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they're just a they're just a fun they're just a fun group

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they're endearing that make me laugh so like maybe we'll do a movie aside from

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singing do you want to know one other thing that i i mean

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i'm gonna tell you anyway even if you said no i would tell you anyway that like

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something that i think really sort of um like disarms

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them and like changes whatever is happening i hope

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you don't you don't crop dust them do you is that no is that this is

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the fartiest class i've ever i mean this is like the 24 25

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i only bring that up because it's been it's been

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a it's been brought up in casual conversation yeah

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it's the gaseous group of children i've ever had and i i

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mean sometimes it's like like oh my god i'm choking like

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are you unwell do like what is happening but yeah so no no it's going off the

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rails okay but here so ask me a question like let's we're gonna pretend um you're

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the try like you're the student and i'm me um and you're uh gonna ask me something hey miss yes.

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Uh, where can I find markers?

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How dare you? How dare you?

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How dare you? Now it only gets better if you look at the kid next to them.

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How dare he? Did you hear what he just said?

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Now, like, everybody in that area is like, and they don't get the Kelly Kapoor.

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They don't get the office reference which is

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like one of my most favorite of all time when ryan comes

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back yes and you know and it's like and she's

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like and he's like okay does anyone have any questions and she's like yeah i

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have a question how dare you she's uh tell you there are some moments in that

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show there's some moments that is another thing that like really does sort of, um,

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I mean, you asked me something that wasn't necessarily like going to cause any

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kind of tension, but I, I often, you know,

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I like to take one from, from actually your playbook.

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Uh, don't say, so I would be like, you know what? We're fighting.

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And I just walk away. I'm like, we're fighting. We are in a quarrel and we are

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fighting. And I just walked away.

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Um, cause a lot of, you know, honestly, a lot of even behaviors, it's, um.

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Like, there's so many ways to diffuse it where it doesn't become a situation.

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Like, my thing is I make up middle names.

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You know, like when you would get in trouble and your mother would be like,

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Jamie Noel, you better blah, blah, blah. That's my real name.

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I know. I know. Usually you call me Jamie Marie.

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I know. So, exactly. So, I, like, make up middle names.

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And I'll be like, you know, Robert Michael. And they're like,

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Michael, where did you? I'm like, I make up middle names.

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Stop it right now. And they laugh. And it diffuses the situation.

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And then everybody moves on. And then every once in a while, I guess it right.

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And everybody's like, oh my God. I bet your odds of guessing are really low. Oh, they're very low.

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They're like, they're almost as good as when I used to work the guess your weight,

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guess your age booth at Fantasy Hall.

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Everybody's getting a prize. Everybody, you get a prize. You get a prize.

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Everybody gets a prize. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad.

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Anyway, we're in rare form today, folks. I will say a throwback to Courtney.

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Hey, it's me. hi hi it's mrs v um to

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courtney varner right oh yes her um and it

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has played in my head so many times since

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we had her on the pod and i think it

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is like simplistic enough in its you

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know in the idea of it but it is so profound

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if you are not having fun and

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remembering that like these kids are kids and you're

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not finding ways to joke and

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laugh and like really sort of make this the

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situations lighter than you really have to reevaluate what you're doing in the

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classroom I don't I do not disagree we're all and we're also all not perfect

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we all have days where we where we just don't have it yes yeah it's like hashtag

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I have nothing left to give I think that's been a theme on here.

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So yeah, but you're 100% right. And that's great advice from Courtney from a previous episode.

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And definitely check out our earlier episodes with some of our great guests

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that we've had. We would love for you to do that.

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So uh so what what is

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our topic today i have uh um you know

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i have a couple of questions for you but you have questions for

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me oh am i all right it was a bit of a like a part of another um show that i

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felt like we weren't finished with oh you know uh let this meeting be called

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to order oh okay so all right isn't it i call a quorum a quarrel a quarrel quorum quorum A quorum.

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What is it called? You got a quorum. That's what it is. A quorum?

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A quorum? And you got enough people in the room. I don't know.

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Parliamentary procedure. Anyway.

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Wait.

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Old business. If you show a movie, what will the movie be?

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I'll probably show something Disney related. Nice. Something like Wally or Up. Or I'll let them choose.

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Halfsies, holesies. please like show it for half the time um

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not the whole time no i can't because they don't

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pay attention right like you only have like that's what i um i'm like a good

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20 30 minutes max and then like we've then i gotta wait till the next day yeah

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i do the same yeah a lot of times like they're i don't know i just i like to

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i mean we all know what half days at school are like right Right.

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So I do make sure that we spend those times and make them as purposeful as we can. Yeah.

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You know, we talk about maybe, maybe I'll have them like do a little survey

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of like, what was your favorite part of the year?

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Or a lot of times we do a mock trial just because they enjoy the mock trials.

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And it's something like, would you rather do this? Or like,

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you know, do something else. Or I've had kids come in and we play board games,

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like little stuff like that. Games, I love to play games with them.

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Wait, so if you, I will say I'm showing a movie right now. I am not anti-movie.

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I'm showing a movie right now. It's the second movie for one of my classes that

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we've watched this year, full length feature film.

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And they are completely and totally glued to it. So we read the novel and now

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we're watching the movie.

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And we did that for the Watson's Go to Birmingham. ham and they were outraged.

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Um, you know, like it wasn't, it was so good. Cause it was like,

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this isn't what we pictured at all, you know, and they were able to make sense of it.

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And I love that. And now we're watching Tuck Everlasting.

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We finished reading Tuck Everlasting and they're even more, um, enraged.

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And I just love like that being able to, you know, compare those two things

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and, um, and they're glued to it. So I don't mind.

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Yeah, I don't, um, yeah. And especially this generation has a more difficult

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time and then more YouTube, you know, so they're used to watching the clips

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rather than the entire movie.

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But sometimes like it really, last year, what did I do? A league of their own.

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That was, I mean, nobody moved. They were completely into it.

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So I can't wait to hear what first period gets to do. Maybe I'll have to,

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uh, uh, Oh no, I'm, I'm working.

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I was like, you could always, well, we could always swing in.

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They're fun. They're a good group.

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So there's some chuckleheads in there, but you know, we make it work.

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I'm looking forward to them next year, hopefully.

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So, okay. You wanted to revisit something. What do we got?

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I do want to revisit a couple of topics specifically about parent volunteers in school.

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Oh, okay. We're back to this again. Okay. Okay. Because we had some,

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I think, some unfinished business when it came to... And I've actually had a

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few people who have heard the episode and have asked.

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And it was only part of a greater chat that we had had. It was only one part of.

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So I wanted to, and it really sort of caused quite...

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You know, quite a bit of chatter. It did. It really did.

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So, you know, what do you think about this time of year with,

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and I forgot, kind of forgot this.

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So we had talked about, for anybody who missed that episode or part of the episode,

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we had been, we had talked about having to earn points in order to volunteer

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at your child's field day specifically.

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So you could be a class parent, you end the responsibility can be shared with a spouse.

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So it wasn't just a singular, like, just mom or dad. It could be among the two

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of you, between the two of you.

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And the idea is that you have to, you know, earn enough points to be able to go to field day.

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It could be, and the points came from different categories.

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So whether you attended a PTO meeting, or you chaired a fundraiser or,

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you know, you were the class parent or you sent tissues in, whatever that might be, right?

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So as I'm having these little chats with some of the people who had listened to the episode.

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Specifically to this particular time of year, I forgot that,

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and I don't want to full-on go with, like, what grinds my gears,

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But I forgot what is the thing that I really, like, it made me so crazy.

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Muffins with mom. Okay. So I was curious.

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I was curious if you ever had a donuts with dad or.

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We did. Now, okay. I remember there being one when we lived in Pennsylvania

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for a short period of time.

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I remember there being one. We did a donuts with dad at the elementary school.

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Really quick little in the cafeteria, big bang, boom, and you're out.

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I don't remember it at the elementary. It's not that they didn't do it.

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I don't remember having done it because there were a lot of different events.

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We tried to go to as many as we could. OK.

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But just like everything else in life, people start to get pulled in a bunch

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of different directions. And what are some things that you cut out?

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School obligations or I don't want to say obligations, but like things that

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are like volunteer opportunities.

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Like sometimes, you know, there was. Well, that wasn't. Right. That wasn't. Yeah. No.

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That was like, you know, you're going to go and have breakfast or some sort

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of lunch with your child's.

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Before, you know, or during the, or right in the morning. I don't know.

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Our school did it in the morning.

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I think they did it in the, they did it. I know, I remember the one in Pennsylvania

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was absolutely in the morning because I do remember going into, to work later that day.

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Yeah. So, and so traditionally, so my, my, I have a list of like problems with

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it, but one of my issues was the fact that I didn't think it should be called

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muffins with mom or donuts with dad.

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I didn't think that it should occur um when it

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was you know um i've been seeing a lot of

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videos lately about maycember and how you

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know may has become like the second december oh my god we're just talking we're

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literally just talking about this today with somebody that i ran into at wawa

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who her and i went to high school together and we teach in the in the same district

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and it was like um you know the kids and this thing and the cotillion and the

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driving test and and the this thing and that.

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And it's like, everything is in May. Everything. Communion.

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Mother's Day. Mother's Day. Field Day. A lot of them start in May, right? All the days.

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And that's also why, which for me personally, and I've joked about this before,

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and this is not the case, but the joke with us is like, in the first two weeks

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of May, I'm a single parent because my wife is also at end of semester.

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And, you know, kids are graduating from college and they're coming out of doctoral

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programs and we're auditing and making sure that everybody's good because those

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people want to graduate.

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Yeah. Right. Like, yeah, that's a huge accomplishment. So she's like the I wouldn't

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say she's the keystone of all of that, but like she's a very important part of that.

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So she's got to make sure that her part is done so everything else can get done

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for those kids to be able to walk and graduate and go across the stage and shake

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the hands and move the tassel and wear the grand poobah hat and all that stuff.

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Right. Like, so like at that point, like I know.

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I'm on, I'm on for doctor's appointments, the driving, this,

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that, whatever it is, it's me.

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So I know like that's an, also a very stressful time for us as a family.

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So, but then you're adding in all those other events that you're trying to do,

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but like, I get it, uh, completely. Yeah. It's a lot.

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So my issue was, um, muffins with mom, like number one, the name, um, number two,

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making it at, you know, directly next to Mother's Day and Father's Day,

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because that's not necessarily something that everyone, you know,

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not everybody has a mom, not everybody has a dad.

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And then you have two different situations where parents are now having to rearrange

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their schedules at this very difficult time of year, right?

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So we had offered up some different solutions to that, Right.

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Also, my other issue with it was, to be quite frank, was, you know,

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some of the people who were coming,

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you know, it's like nobody wants to, like, no one really wanted to organize it.

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Yes. And like someone's got to go buy all the muffins and buy all the drinks

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and put all the tablecloths and set everything up.

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And, you know, so so that's a and yet people who are completely and totally

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unavailable to do any of those chores are suddenly available to come.

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You know i can't like those

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kinds of things don't always like gel with me and i

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feel like if everybody just does one thing right not

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everybody has to do 10 things but if everybody did one then one person's not

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doing 100 well it's it's the idea of many hands make light work yes i oh many

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that was my speech um each year to the parents at back to school night as the

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president of the pto I would get up and I would say, please,

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like, we are all working moms, we and dads, we are all, you know,

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parents of multiple children who are involved in lots of activities.

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And if you can just give us one hour of one month of your time,

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many hands make light work.

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Like, we're all in this together. And also, I'm not trying to downplay this, right?

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Like, this is definitely something that is, I hate using this word, triggering, right?

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Because it's something you've been through as, you know, a PTO president for a number of years.

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Co-president. I don't want to be, yeah, co-president. And I would also like to say this.

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It's not like, and your kids are no longer in elementary school.

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And it's not like you haven't stayed involved in some capacity.

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You're involved in the, in the band parent organization.

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Uh, you're, you know, you're involved in various things. So you're not like you're a put up.

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You're it's like you've put up and shut up. I don't know. I don't know if that's

00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:24.960
coming up and shown up. I get, yeah.

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You know, it's like put up or shut up, but like you've put up and shown up your

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time and your talent and your ability and like doing fundraisers and all that

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stuff. And the things that you've done are amazing.

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And I know, like, having been a part of organizations where you are, you know.

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20% of people do 80% of the work, right? You got, like, a small amount of people

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that are the driving force in an organization, and the other people are the

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ones that, like, show up and do, like, the little thing.

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And I'd like to say this plainly. I know we were joking around and talking about

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this stuff and looking at it from two different perspectives, right?

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So I'm looking at the idea of Muffins with Mom and volunteering time as,

00:26:01.820 --> 00:26:03.420
like, oh, you got to take off of work and stuff like that.

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But then hearing it from your perspective, let me make this very clear. You are right.

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OK, because there's not I mean, we're joking around about it,

00:26:11.626 --> 00:26:13.466
but like you are you are right from that perspective.

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I look at it as like, well, what if you don't have the ability to take off of your job?

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And can you know, there are some schools that don't allow like,

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OK, you can't be there at that time if you work the fixed schedule,

00:26:24.086 --> 00:26:27.266
if you're working at a hospital and you're you know, you need to be at a shift.

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Like, can you send a grandparent to get the hours? And some people are like,

00:26:30.166 --> 00:26:32.926
no, we don't allow that. And I'm like, OK, well, I know.

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I mean, our district does require anyone that's going to volunteer to go to

00:26:39.006 --> 00:26:44.326
the Board of Education, which I think is amazing. I loved when they did that.

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And and so everyone has to go to the Board of Education and they have to be

00:26:49.466 --> 00:26:52.066
approved and you are on file.

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And, you know, and then you get like a special visitor pass that gives you the

00:26:57.786 --> 00:27:02.946
privilege of being allowed into the building for that school year.

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And then you have to get it renewed every year.

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So I thought that that was really smart and terrific.

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And from a safety perspective, I think a very good decision.

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And by the way, my wife, who takes our therapy dogs to various schools throughout

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the district, has a like asked, like, can I have a pass to like go to all of them?

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Because like I never know when a school is going to call me and want me to come there.

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So she's covered. It basically is what I'm getting to. So I think it's a great idea.

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That's the one thing. And also, like, even though I was not like heavily involved

00:27:33.386 --> 00:27:37.206
in like the school PTA and and those types of things, and I,

00:27:37.266 --> 00:27:39.486
you know, I volunteered and went to things wherever I could.

00:27:40.246 --> 00:27:43.066
I was involved in other ways. Like I was involved in like, you know,

00:27:43.146 --> 00:27:47.046
the volunteer soccer coaching and then helping run the league and like doing all that stuff.

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Wait, can I just make my point, though? because I know that you've done that. I'm talking about.

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Because the opposite of that for you is that you didn't show up and say,

00:27:59.735 --> 00:28:03.235
like, let me in. I deserve to be here.

00:28:03.895 --> 00:28:07.675
I'm first. You know, you're not like shoving people out of the way to get your donut.

00:28:07.955 --> 00:28:15.295
You know what I mean? Like, there's this air of, you know, how come those moms

00:28:15.295 --> 00:28:21.695
on the PTO get, and it's like, get, we're working.

00:28:21.695 --> 00:28:24.755
You know we're helping we're doing so you

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know it was not this sense of um and

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so for me with you or anyone else in that

00:28:30.235 --> 00:28:33.295
category it isn't necessarily that it's

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more of like the people who um want to come and like be extremely

00:28:36.675 --> 00:28:39.595
critical i'm just not a

00:28:39.595 --> 00:28:42.275
i'm going to be part of the problem without being part of the

00:28:42.275 --> 00:28:46.495
solution you know please don't tell me how much better you could have done it

00:28:46.495 --> 00:28:51.915
do it so like and with my my kids fifth grade field day right i'm like oh i

00:28:51.915 --> 00:28:54.975
want to go to field day so i went i got like a little bit of half day coverage

00:28:54.975 --> 00:28:58.195
and i uh the elementary school was right down the street from the middle school

00:28:58.195 --> 00:29:01.015
that i was teaching at the time and i went to the school.

00:29:01.495 --> 00:29:04.855
And they put me at some station which was fine but then

00:29:04.855 --> 00:29:07.595
immediately it was like we're okay we're running out of water balloons we

00:29:07.595 --> 00:29:10.855
need a hose so i'm like okay where's the

00:29:10.855 --> 00:29:13.915
hose like all right we get the hose and like i'm in the janitor's room

00:29:13.915 --> 00:29:17.115
in the elementary school hooking up the hose filling up

00:29:17.115 --> 00:29:20.135
water balloons immediately just like you do it you

00:29:20.135 --> 00:29:24.395
do it while like other people are like standing around not doing

00:29:24.395 --> 00:29:30.175
anything like and that like right everybody needs to everybody needs to pitch

00:29:30.175 --> 00:29:34.175
in like it has to be some sort of and and the point i was trying to make before

00:29:34.175 --> 00:29:38.335
you said that the point i was trying to make is like a school and i'm not trying

00:29:38.335 --> 00:29:40.135
to sound hokey it has to be a community.

00:29:40.615 --> 00:29:43.655
Everybody has to work and pull their weight and chip in some way.

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And I know that I've made jokes about like, I want to be, you know, napkin mom or Venmo dad.

00:29:49.335 --> 00:29:52.875
And sometimes that's what I have to be. A hundred percent. Me too.

00:29:53.275 --> 00:29:56.695
Because life is like, okay, here's a check, you know? And I've also,

00:29:56.875 --> 00:30:00.555
and I will vocally say it right now, my kids are involved in high school athletics

00:30:00.555 --> 00:30:04.295
and how many fundraisers and sending a check. And it's like,

00:30:04.355 --> 00:30:05.315
you show up to the parent meeting.

00:30:05.455 --> 00:30:07.955
It's like, okay, well, here's your box of chocolate that you have to go sell.

00:30:08.155 --> 00:30:13.395
And it's like, okay, well, I have two kids in the same high school program,

00:30:13.635 --> 00:30:16.035
boy and girl, and they're both selling the same thing.

00:30:16.275 --> 00:30:20.815
And so I have to do double to sell to the same people, the same names.

00:30:21.015 --> 00:30:23.895
It's like, I don't want to do this. Tell me how much money you want me to give

00:30:23.895 --> 00:30:24.975
you and I'll give it to you.

00:30:25.035 --> 00:30:28.235
Well, I have a very good friend who gave in the elementary school,

00:30:28.415 --> 00:30:37.015
gave a check every September for about $500 and said, I'm good for the year.

00:30:37.941 --> 00:30:43.881
Good. And it was awesome. It was like 100%. Thank you so much. But here's the thing.

00:30:44.361 --> 00:30:48.041
If I've offered to do that, there are people that are like, oh,

00:30:48.141 --> 00:30:49.081
why are you trying to get out of it?

00:30:49.181 --> 00:30:53.941
I'm like, you don't seem like, can we? But see, that's what I think we're talking

00:30:53.941 --> 00:30:56.061
about, right? Like that, the tood.

00:30:56.341 --> 00:31:00.341
Like the tood that comes in with, you know, instead of saying like,

00:31:00.621 --> 00:31:02.821
that is terrific and thank you.

00:31:03.741 --> 00:31:09.541
My trigger was always, I'm going to tell you how much better I can do it than you.

00:31:09.941 --> 00:31:12.161
But then they don't do it.

00:31:12.581 --> 00:31:21.301
I mean, there are people, so many, in so many ways that can do everything better

00:31:21.301 --> 00:31:23.481
than me. That happens a lot even.

00:31:23.941 --> 00:31:27.961
No, that happens a lot. Even in like, even in our profession,

00:31:27.961 --> 00:31:32.021
when like people are doing stuff and there's times I've been critical to like,

00:31:32.341 --> 00:31:36.381
you know, we all have. Okay.

00:31:36.741 --> 00:31:43.421
Where we've looked at like, whether it be a professional development day and made suggestions.

00:31:43.861 --> 00:31:50.081
It's human nature to be like, but I always come, I try to come to the table with a solution.

00:31:50.081 --> 00:31:52.861
Like yes you do you know i think

00:31:52.861 --> 00:31:55.781
that there's going to be uh you know i i i saw

00:31:55.781 --> 00:31:59.361
this happen this year how about next year we try or maybe

00:31:59.361 --> 00:32:02.341
we should or how about we you know

00:32:02.341 --> 00:32:05.461
come up with some kind of other solution which sometimes is well received and

00:32:05.461 --> 00:32:09.321
sometimes isn't right and i think sometimes too it depends on like is the person

00:32:09.321 --> 00:32:13.641
like open to hearing the suggestions like you know maybe like sending someone

00:32:13.641 --> 00:32:19.441
a message um criticizing the yearbook that they volunteered and made like during

00:32:19.441 --> 00:32:21.401
the child's actual graduation,

00:32:21.401 --> 00:32:24.181
maybe that's not the right time, right?

00:32:24.281 --> 00:32:28.181
Like maybe the person is not ready to receive said criticism, you know?

00:32:28.461 --> 00:32:33.301
So, and it depends. Oh, and wait, and one more thing, because I don't want to forget to say this.

00:32:33.701 --> 00:32:42.341
And I have worked in a building like this. If there are no parents to help, the teachers do it.

00:32:43.481 --> 00:32:47.401
Yes. Which is double exhaustion, right?

00:32:47.581 --> 00:32:55.241
So I have seen teachers go above and beyond in every possible way,

00:32:55.381 --> 00:32:59.081
including field days, trips.

00:32:59.401 --> 00:33:05.801
I mean, you know, there's such a difference in different school cultures that

00:33:05.801 --> 00:33:10.441
wherever there are parents that are willing to help, like they are applauded.

00:33:10.561 --> 00:33:16.441
And thank you so much for helping. And then, of course, like I always think

00:33:16.441 --> 00:33:22.621
of those teachers that do all of that because they don't have the parental support

00:33:22.621 --> 00:33:24.581
in the community to help them.

00:33:25.438 --> 00:33:28.838
Yeah. And that's where it falls down to. And, and recently, you know,

00:33:28.918 --> 00:33:32.798
it was just before this episode, I was, you know, sitting around and getting

00:33:32.798 --> 00:33:34.998
ready. I was like, you know, doom's going through TikTok.

00:33:35.238 --> 00:33:40.658
And it was a, uh, a post by, it was a Nick Ferroni post. Shout out Nick Ferroni.

00:33:40.738 --> 00:33:41.518
Where's my heart picture?

00:33:41.798 --> 00:33:46.678
Um, it was a, it was a little shout out to Nick, but it was like,

00:33:46.818 --> 00:33:52.238
um, that the entire system of, of education is built on, uh,

00:33:52.338 --> 00:33:53.258
unpaid teacher overtime.

00:33:53.258 --> 00:33:57.618
And then he said, like, it would be amazing to see what teachers would be able

00:33:57.618 --> 00:34:01.998
to do or what wouldn't happen if teachers just worked in their contract hours

00:34:01.998 --> 00:34:08.478
and taught with what their schools gave them in regards to a budget and things like that.

00:34:08.478 --> 00:34:12.378
Because these look, you're on Instagram and you're on Pinterest and you're on

00:34:12.378 --> 00:34:16.458
TikTok and all the social media platforms and you're seeing teachers in the

00:34:16.458 --> 00:34:20.538
classroom and you're seeing them with these decorated spaces with LED lights

00:34:20.538 --> 00:34:23.118
and amazing bulletin boards and beanbag chairs.

00:34:23.898 --> 00:34:28.638
I am I am I will I do not wager. I'm not a betting person. I'll bet.

00:34:28.898 --> 00:34:32.958
I would. Ninety nine percent of ninety nine percent of that stuff is bought

00:34:32.958 --> 00:34:34.598
themselves is bought by the teachers themselves.

00:34:35.138 --> 00:34:39.078
My goddaughter, when she was going to be in Florida, she had a little Amazon

00:34:39.078 --> 00:34:41.138
wish list that she sent out to family members.

00:34:41.518 --> 00:34:45.338
And that's what she wanted, like stuff for her classroom, like pencil caddy

00:34:45.338 --> 00:34:47.758
things and all that stuff, because you want to make this welcoming,

00:34:48.398 --> 00:34:49.458
nurturing environment.

00:34:50.418 --> 00:34:56.238
And then, you know, they get to older grades and it's much more difficult in

00:34:56.238 --> 00:34:57.938
order to do that. Oh, yeah.

00:34:58.958 --> 00:35:01.898
Yeah. So, like, it's hard, you

00:35:01.898 --> 00:35:08.918
know. No, and we are lucky to work in environments where we're supported.

00:35:09.358 --> 00:35:13.738
We're lucky to work in environments that we have great coworkers,

00:35:13.738 --> 00:35:18.018
but we've also worked in environments where that hasn't been the case,

00:35:18.038 --> 00:35:23.578
as well as there have been either a lack of parental participation.

00:35:24.658 --> 00:35:29.618
Or sometimes you could make the counter-argument that overbearing parental participation,

00:35:30.326 --> 00:35:33.266
involvement. Yeah. Can be just as bad. Yeah.

00:35:34.126 --> 00:35:36.886
Okay. That's true. That's true. Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:37.026 --> 00:35:41.346
I just hadn't really, you know, I felt like I had a few more things I wanted to say about it.

00:35:41.446 --> 00:35:46.006
And I, you know, I understand that, you know, the perception is,

00:35:46.166 --> 00:35:49.746
you know, and there's, it's definitely, you know, where people are like, oh,

00:35:50.246 --> 00:35:54.386
that group of parents, they're, you know, they want to do everything their way,

00:35:54.386 --> 00:35:56.846
or they, you know, they're not welcoming.

00:35:57.026 --> 00:36:01.706
And, you know, and having been on the other side of it, it's just absolutely

00:36:01.706 --> 00:36:03.486
not true. And what winds up happening?

00:36:03.926 --> 00:36:08.186
Path of least resistance. You either, you either involve those people and do

00:36:08.186 --> 00:36:11.946
exactly what their, their thing is or give them the job that they want or,

00:36:12.586 --> 00:36:15.906
or, you know, you get to the point in our profession where it becomes like,

00:36:15.966 --> 00:36:19.126
well, that person can't do the job and you can do the job.

00:36:19.126 --> 00:36:21.786
So we're going to give you your job plus that other person's job.

00:36:21.886 --> 00:36:25.006
Oh, they can't have cafeteria duty because they're just not,

00:36:25.246 --> 00:36:30.126
sorry. They're just not, you know, stern enough with the students or whatever.

00:36:30.266 --> 00:36:33.306
And I'm not saying that people outwardly say that, but that's the perception.

00:36:33.586 --> 00:36:38.426
Right. That's what it looks like. Right. Like, oh, that person can't be a proctor for state testing.

00:36:38.526 --> 00:36:42.266
So, you know, we're going to have them be the person that walks in the hallway

00:36:42.266 --> 00:36:44.846
and, you know, walks around and stuff like that.

00:36:45.826 --> 00:36:48.206
Isn't that what you're doing? It is what I'm doing.

00:36:49.686 --> 00:36:53.406
I'm just kidding. This year, I'm the person who gives out the pencils.

00:36:53.906 --> 00:36:57.146
Yeah. And let me tell you. I'd have people comment like, oh,

00:36:57.206 --> 00:36:59.846
how'd you get this job? I'm like, I didn't ask for this.

00:37:00.346 --> 00:37:03.826
They gave it to me. Why did they give it to me? Because for a number of years

00:37:03.826 --> 00:37:07.226
when they had iPads started testing, I was the Apple certified person.

00:37:07.226 --> 00:37:10.706
And if there's a problem with the iPad, they wanted me in the hallway to be

00:37:10.706 --> 00:37:13.546
able to fix it or to help fix it. Right.

00:37:13.926 --> 00:37:18.986
Which, you know, I'll let you in on the secret, everybody. Get a pen and paper. Write this down.

00:37:20.919 --> 00:37:27.579
Turn it off and turn it back on again. Most times. If you've never heard that trick. Yes.

00:37:27.919 --> 00:37:31.519
No. Sometimes it's greater than that. Like you have like these anomalies that

00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.699
people can't problem solve.

00:37:33.019 --> 00:37:39.419
Oh, have you heard that there's a TikTok trend where the kids are messing their

00:37:39.419 --> 00:37:41.179
Chromebook up? Please don't do that. Yeah.

00:37:41.479 --> 00:37:44.479
Please don't do that. Yeah, please don't do that. We asked you.

00:37:44.479 --> 00:37:48.199
Let's not do that. Please don't. So this episode is basically, and another thing.

00:37:48.859 --> 00:37:52.659
And another thing. Like, but really, you know, and it really did seem to,

00:37:52.819 --> 00:37:58.679
you know, open up some really different talking points for, you know,

00:37:58.819 --> 00:38:01.799
what is really the best use of parents' time.

00:38:02.359 --> 00:38:06.419
Oh, I never said muffins with mom, donuts with dad, my very first issue.

00:38:06.419 --> 00:38:10.059
I thought it should just be, I thought it really could be sweets with someone sweet.

00:38:10.759 --> 00:38:15.759
I thought, why, why are we pigeonholing like mom and dad? why can't we make

00:38:15.759 --> 00:38:20.319
it anyone in your, your auntie, your grandmother, like just make it anyone in

00:38:20.319 --> 00:38:21.679
your life that is special to you.

00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:26.279
My niece and nephew had, um, nieces and nephews, they had something that was

00:38:26.279 --> 00:38:29.759
called lunch with a VIP and whoever your VIP was,

00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.119
that was who you, you know, it was so true because you can't,

00:38:34.219 --> 00:38:38.279
it's hard because we, and I also don't want to.

00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.779
And, and I, I also think that the teachers that set these things up,

00:38:43.959 --> 00:38:46.179
their intentions are good, right?

00:38:46.319 --> 00:38:49.059
They're like, oh, we want to do this cute event for mother's day and father's

00:38:49.059 --> 00:38:51.819
day and muffins at mom donuts at that. They're not, but sometimes they can't

00:38:51.819 --> 00:38:52.899
see the forest through the trees.

00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.159
Right. And they can't see like, well, there might be a couple of kids that like

00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:02.319
mom is not around or can't be around or dad is in a, you know,

00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.259
uncomfortable situation or it can't be, you know, custody issues.

00:39:06.399 --> 00:39:07.919
Like there's so many things.

00:39:09.499 --> 00:39:13.559
Where I think one of two things happens. You transition to something like you

00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:18.199
just talked about, sweets with someone sweet, where you say, we're not doing this.

00:39:18.999 --> 00:39:22.919
True. That's the one of two things that happen. I never went. I never went.

00:39:23.859 --> 00:39:26.279
Okay. Does that make me a bad mom? Yes.

00:39:27.999 --> 00:39:33.399
Are my children scarred from it? I'll have to ask that. I'm going to ask them. I'll get back to you.

00:39:33.859 --> 00:39:37.779
I'm sure they're not. Guys, are you all right? Have you recovered?

00:39:37.919 --> 00:39:43.139
From not eating breakfast with me, not in our own house.

00:39:44.037 --> 00:39:49.217
Yes. Right? Yes, probably. Maybe it'll come up later on in their lives. Yeah. You know.

00:39:50.277 --> 00:39:52.317
They can put it on the list of grievances.

00:39:53.437 --> 00:39:57.657
When they're in therapy. This one time in third grade. She never came.

00:39:57.837 --> 00:40:01.537
She didn't come any year. I saved her bag of Little Bites and she didn't come.

00:40:02.837 --> 00:40:06.277
Yo, Little Bites, what's with like three muffins in a bag? Okay.

00:40:06.397 --> 00:40:09.937
First of all, it's four. and also um

00:40:09.937 --> 00:40:12.817
let me just say my kids would sell me

00:40:12.817 --> 00:40:15.577
for a bag of little bites oh oh my

00:40:15.577 --> 00:40:19.017
goodness especially bryn that's what she gave up for lent little bites

00:40:19.017 --> 00:40:21.777
little bites chocolate chip muffins well really all chocolate chip

00:40:21.777 --> 00:40:26.517
muffins muff chocolate chip muffins are her jam and she did go the entire time

00:40:26.517 --> 00:40:30.297
and let me tell you there was no party like the party that happened that's why

00:40:30.297 --> 00:40:34.957
i think that that bryn and sophia are uh sisters from another mister because

00:40:34.957 --> 00:40:38.337
my daughter will eat a chocolate chip muffin every day for breakfast and be

00:40:38.337 --> 00:40:41.017
very happy about it. Every single day. I mean, they are delicious.

00:40:41.277 --> 00:40:43.557
Yes. Yeah, that's crazy. So.

00:40:44.137 --> 00:40:49.217
Well, I mean, if you're out there and you're volunteering and you have figured

00:40:49.217 --> 00:40:54.377
out the way to, you know, make everything better, we'd love to hear from you.

00:40:54.597 --> 00:40:58.557
And if you have some sort of system that seems to work in your school,

00:40:59.037 --> 00:41:03.117
that we would love to hear, you know, we love a good system,

00:41:03.317 --> 00:41:05.457
you know, of what exactly is working.

00:41:05.457 --> 00:41:09.557
And we'd love to hear all about that because, you know, hopefully some of our

00:41:09.557 --> 00:41:13.517
other listeners can benefit from the system that is benefiting you and your

00:41:13.517 --> 00:41:16.237
family in your school. And another thing.

00:41:16.557 --> 00:41:20.377
Yeah. We just recently went through, it was Teacher Appreciation Week.

00:41:21.337 --> 00:41:25.657
So we appreciate all those teachers that are out there fighting the good fight with the rest of us.

00:41:26.477 --> 00:41:30.937
On the front lines in the classroom, dealing with all the same things that we're,

00:41:31.017 --> 00:41:34.637
you know, dealing with on a regular basis in the classroom. room,

00:41:34.757 --> 00:41:40.597
but the work that we do sometimes is thankless and it's nice to have a little week where.

00:41:41.652 --> 00:41:44.572
With not just the people on this show say we appreciate you

00:41:44.572 --> 00:41:47.572
but others in your own schools and i

00:41:47.572 --> 00:41:50.352
would like to shout out uh you know at our school we had a fun

00:41:50.352 --> 00:41:54.672
little um our boss got a coffee cart it was a little coffee cart and you could

00:41:54.672 --> 00:41:58.172
order coffee beforehand and you could get a drink delivered to you and it was

00:41:58.172 --> 00:42:03.132
glorious our admins are crushing yeah crushing appreciation it was really cool

00:42:03.132 --> 00:42:08.392
we got like a little plant and we got a uh like this is a fake succulent because you don't suck.

00:42:09.112 --> 00:42:12.252
Yeah. That's not what it said. That's not what it said, but that would be amazing

00:42:12.252 --> 00:42:16.372
if it did. In my mind, that's what it said. Like, nobody sucks here. Yeah.

00:42:17.492 --> 00:42:22.812
That's great. Yeah. And if you know our boss, that would land perfectly.

00:42:24.092 --> 00:42:28.512
That's great. We had some bagels. Bagels. You know, good stuff.

00:42:28.672 --> 00:42:29.712
It's always fun to have little.

00:42:30.232 --> 00:42:33.872
It's round here. We appreciate you. That's what the sign said,

00:42:33.932 --> 00:42:36.492
right? Little count and crows for you. I love it. Yeah.

00:42:37.132 --> 00:42:39.672
We'd love to hear about your teacher appreciation gifts, too.

00:42:39.712 --> 00:42:42.252
So you can always comment to us on social media. Let us know.

00:42:42.632 --> 00:42:45.592
I mean, Jamie has her favorite one, which is her pint glass with the misspelling.

00:42:46.692 --> 00:42:50.692
The coffee is my real, true number one favorite.

00:42:51.472 --> 00:42:56.632
Not my make fun of favorite. Like the coffee this week was everything to me.

00:42:56.752 --> 00:43:01.952
That was fun. We started when I did student council at a previous middle school that I taught at.

00:43:02.472 --> 00:43:05.952
We had a I decided, you know what? Let's do something.

00:43:06.492 --> 00:43:12.732
Um, you know, for the teachers and it actually happened because there was a

00:43:12.732 --> 00:43:16.272
year where it was like teacher appreciation week and like, it was crickets.

00:43:16.977 --> 00:43:21.297
Nothing happened. Oh, they forgot. Nothing was going on. The PTO didn't do anything,

00:43:21.297 --> 00:43:23.017
not that they are required to.

00:43:23.397 --> 00:43:27.157
And then it was like the next week, there was something haphazardly thrown together.

00:43:27.337 --> 00:43:30.377
And I was like, you know what? I was like, I'm going to help organize something.

00:43:30.537 --> 00:43:33.097
So we did like a thing in the morning.

00:43:33.357 --> 00:43:36.797
We told people to come and just bring. The only thing we told them to bring

00:43:36.797 --> 00:43:40.917
was like a cup for coffee, like a reusable mug, right?

00:43:41.597 --> 00:43:47.197
Or tea. So I got donations. We bought things. I had the cheerleaders show up

00:43:47.197 --> 00:43:53.377
in the, in the, in the morning with, with pom poms and like cheer for people coming in.

00:43:53.657 --> 00:43:58.357
Um, and I'm happy to say that that actually still gets done at that school.

00:43:58.597 --> 00:44:02.537
So it's really cool that that was an event that I kind of, not that I'm patting

00:44:02.537 --> 00:44:05.357
myself on the back for it, but I think that was a really fun event.

00:44:05.557 --> 00:44:08.757
You could come in. It was like, you know, the little, the baskets of candy with

00:44:08.757 --> 00:44:14.837
like, you know, it's how it should be. You officially made us awesome and like bagels.

00:44:15.057 --> 00:44:18.337
Yeah. Like bagels and stuff like that. So we did that and we just had some,

00:44:18.357 --> 00:44:19.637
you know, fun stuff in the morning.

00:44:19.837 --> 00:44:23.017
I cheered for everybody and everybody would like run through and you'd be like,

00:44:23.117 --> 00:44:25.337
woo. And you'd be like, this is Waco.

00:44:26.537 --> 00:44:31.657
It would be like the, uh, yeah, the Yankee, the Yankee stadium roll call.

00:44:32.237 --> 00:44:35.797
Oh, I love that. It's those types of things. It's like those small gestures

00:44:35.797 --> 00:44:40.577
and another thing. It's like those small gestures that really make,

00:44:40.677 --> 00:44:43.997
you know, I don't need anything crazy special. I don't need anything expensive.

00:44:43.997 --> 00:44:45.497
I don't need to be wined and dined.

00:44:45.617 --> 00:44:49.177
But just like a little, you know, a pat on the back or like a little message

00:44:49.177 --> 00:44:53.817
or sometimes nice. I mean, deliver me a delicious iced coffee to my classroom. Yeah.

00:44:54.117 --> 00:44:59.717
That was great. I loved every minute of it. Me too. It was. And not only that, but I sent my message.

00:44:59.957 --> 00:45:03.657
I sent the message to the boss that, hey, I throw my vote back in for coffee

00:45:03.657 --> 00:45:04.697
cart for next year. Do it.

00:45:05.277 --> 00:45:09.037
It was awesome. Or we should just, it should be like, you know,

00:45:09.277 --> 00:45:13.577
it should be like the 1950s offices where like the little beverage cart would like roll around.

00:45:14.257 --> 00:45:16.957
I would totally want that job. Oh, dream of dreams. Yeah.

00:45:18.397 --> 00:45:22.917
Well, Mr. Right Sally, I appreciate you. Not just this week,

00:45:22.977 --> 00:45:25.637
but every week. Yes, I appreciate you too, friend.

00:45:26.337 --> 00:45:30.737
And I'm so happy that we've, I feel like you were having an intervention because

00:45:30.737 --> 00:45:35.257
you wanted to quarrel with me about my saying you were wrong about your thoughts on.

00:45:36.397 --> 00:45:41.777
Parental involvement. No, I just think that it's a really interesting ongoing.

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I mean, this is not going to be the last time that we talk about this because

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there's got to be probably five or six other things that I meant to say,

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but you know, that's why, you know, we just never are never done talking. Mr.

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Yeah, pretty much. All right. So we will see everybody.

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Music.